Hello everyone! I hope you are having a safe and blessed Friday night! I wanted to share the replies I sent to one of the people who is preaching the false doctrine of losing salvation. I will paraphrase her responses and not site her name for privacy. These replies form a letter that I want on record for any other person who thinks we can lose our salvation. That false doctrine is not found in the Bible, so I must defend God’s Word and speak the truth.
Here was my first reply to her after reading her blog post where she straight up said a believer can lose their salvation. This was the day before I wrote the post “Peaceful Morning & A Bold Word.”:
“We cannot lose our salvation. Nothing can snatch us out of the hands of Jesus and the Father (John 10:27-30, John 5:24, Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 5:8, John 11:25-26, Romans 10:9). We are sinners and there is nothing you could do before or after accepting Jesus to save yourself. All of our good works are dirty rags to the Lord and they won’t save us. Any good works we do after accepting Christ are done through Him and for His glory. There is no boasting about our salvation as if we did something to earn it.
The Lord will discipline us though and even severely if we need it, but we are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ. There are no good works you could do to save yourself. If someone is caught in a sin, they are still saved and nothing can snatch them out of His hand, but we need to encourage them to repent and keep striving for the Lord. Until they repent, they will not be living the abundant life God wants for them, but Jesus will leave the 99 and go after the sheep that wandered off (Matthew 18:12-14).
Preaching that a person can lose their salvation is not found in Scripture. The will of God is that everyone believes in Jesus and those who believe in Jesus Christ are His and their salvation is eternally secure because of what He did for us on the cross. Check out my post: “You CANNOT Lose Your Salvation!” The only ones who are not saved are those who have not done the Father’s will, which is to accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior (1 John 2:17, John 6:40). Everyone who believes in Jesus Christ will be raised up at the last day.
We need to be very careful with legalism and self-righteousness. After walking with Christ, sometimes Christians can become like Pharisees thinking they are holy on their own. It is Jesus Christ through the power of the Holy Spirit that convicts us of sin and leads us in righteousness. If a Christian is caught in a sin and has sowed to please their flesh, they are still saved, but they will reap the destruction of that sin in the form of consequences and discipline until they repent and turn from it once again (Hebrews 12:1-11). Jesus Christ is the Author and Perfecter of our faith and He will never leave us nor forsake us and that is not a “cheap grace” as you say. That is the power, love, mercy, and forgiveness of God! We are sinners and we need Jesus every day (Romans 3:21-24). We did not save ourselves and not even you can snatch yourself out of His hand. We are not greater than Jesus or the Father. Perfect love drives out fear (1 John 4:18) and the one who is afraid of losing their salvation is still living in fear.
I preach the true Gospel of Jesus Christ (saved by God’s grace through faith in Jesus) and I have been ever since I got saved on October 11, 1996! I love the Lord with all my heart! I agree that we need to die to sin and live for righteousness and encourage our brothers and sisters and the world to do the same. I have never preached that people should keep on sinning after accepting Christ! We are not to trample God’s grace. Remember though, it is God who wills and works in us for His good purpose (Philippians 2:13) and we don’t get any of the glory for any good works we do–there is to be no boasting. We are saved by grace, not by works. Is there something you have done for God that He should repay you (Romans 11:35)? Can you earn your salvation or did Jesus Christ pay for it in full in His Holy Blood (John 19:30)?
I take Jesus at His word when He says nothing can snatch me out of His hand and I am at peace in my faith in Him. He will complete the good work He started in us and see it through to completion until the day of Christ Jesus (Philippians 1:6). Once you belong to Jesus you always belong to Jesus! Jesus is faithful and He cannot disown Himself (2 Timothy 2:13).
That is not just “a couple of scriptures pulled out of context”. I just gave you a lot of Scripture that forms the very foundation of our faith in Jesus Christ.
Grace and peace to you,
Are you a Catholic?”
At that point she told me she was not a Catholic and she said she was not going to argue with me while saying again that people can lose their salvation, so I said:
“You are arguing with Jesus, not me. It is those who believe in Jesus who are saved (Romans 10:9). Those who place their trust fully in Jesus and not in their own good works are saved.”
Then she told me it was the same message she had been preaching that I had “liked” in the past along with telling me she was right in saying people can lose their salvation, yet again, so I said:
“For the record I had never read or “liked” before where you said it was from “the pit of hell” to preach the truth that we are saved by grace alone through faith alone in Jesus Christ alone. I would have never “liked” any false preaching like that! None of those Scriptures you gave me talk about losing your salvation. Show me where it says you are saved by works. That’s right, you can’t because that is not in the Bible.
You have a misunderstanding of Scripture, you are misusing it, and misquoting it. Mormons, Catholics, and Jehovah’s Witnesses love to quote Galatians and talk about losing salvation when Paul is actually talking about not trusting in the law. “I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!” (Galatians 2:21). He is talking about living in the power of the Spirit and fully trusting in Jesus.
Even Paul said he wasn’t perfect and he struggled with sin. Do you think you are perfect? Read what Paul said in Philippians 3:12-16. I really can’t believe you preach that people can lose their salvation.
It’s good you want to stress to people to live righteously. I do that too, but don’t be some self-righteous Pharisee acting like you can do something to earn your salvation and go around beating people up with verses you don’t understand while you tell people to worry about losing their salvation. It’s ridiculous! We put no confidence in the flesh or the law! You sound like a legalistic Catholic and I have come across many of those in my 22 year walk with Christ. Even had a nun at my Grandma’s funeral (who for some reason was there, we are not Catholic) tell me to my face that my Grandma wasn’t in Heaven! My Grandma loved Jesus Christ with all her heart and I looked right at her and said, “She believed in Jesus, she is in Heaven.” She didn’t say another word. Sinful judgmental Catholic nun who commits blasphemy and idolatry every time she worships Mary and saints! She didn’t know Christ and the Holy Spirit was not in her!
It’s sad that you don’t put your full trust in Jesus Christ and what He did for you at the cross. You are living in fear (1 John 4:18). Did you forget it was your sin that put Him there too? Have you done something righteous for God that He should repay you? Are you greater than Jesus and the Father when Jesus said no one can snatch you out of his hand?
You have a deep misunderstanding and warped view of the verses you mentioned and I am saddened by it. I hope someday you will understand just how much Jesus forgave you. The Holy Spirit seals your redemption and “is a deposit guaranteeing your inheritance,” not you or any good works (Ephesians 1:13-14).
When Paul talks about those that live according to the flesh, he is talking about unbelievers. He is also talking about those who trust in the law. He calls the Jews who trust in the law “the circumcision.” Those who live according to the flesh (trusting in good works through trying to obey the law instead of accepting Christ, or unbelievers) and those unbelievers or law keepers who don’t do God’s will (which is to believe in Jesus Christ) will be destroyed. We are only saved through faith in Jesus Christ. We live righteously after we accept Christ only by the power of the Holy Spirit. You are not racking up points to get yourself into Heaven. If you could do that, like the Apostle Paul said, then Christ died for nothing!
I preach the truth and I don’t take Scripture out of context. Every post on my blog has tons of Scripture in it to give plenty of context and understanding. I have been preaching the Gospel, which is to repent (turn from sin) and put your faith in Jesus Christ for your salvation, for 22 years. I have read and studied God’s Word deeply every day since I was saved on October 11, 1996. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that a person can be saved by works. Nowhere does it say you can lose your salvation. If a person has truly accepted Christ, then that person has the Holy Spirit, they are sealed, and their eternal inheritance is guaranteed through Jesus and Jesus alone!
Read what Paul said about his struggles with sin in Romans 7:15-25. Was Paul hell bound? Did Paul lose his salvation because he struggled with sin just like you and every other human being does? No, he did not!
Paul said it best:
“I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do–this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.” (Romans 7:18-20)
“What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? Thanks be to God–through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in the sinful nature a slave to the law of sin.” (Romans 7:24-25)
Paul trusted fully in Jesus Christ for his salvation and so do I. He struggled with sin and fought it and pressed on in Christ. He never said he was perfect. Again, do you think you are perfect or you never sin? If so, that in itself is sinful and arrogant towards God.
There is no condemnation for those in Christ (Romans 8:1) and we did not receive a Spirit of fear (Romans 8:15). If a Christian goes off and tries to live a sinful life, he will reap the consequences & discipline of that and it could lead to his death, but he is still saved in Jesus Christ. He can still repent and keep pressing on in Christ like Paul.
Go back to John 3:16-18. Whoever believes in Jesus Christ has eternal life and is not condemned. There is nothing you can add to that or take away. Jesus was clear then and many other times that He is the only Way to Heaven and we get there by believing in Him. That is a gift from God, not by works, so that no one can boast.
Can you say you are more righteous than someone else and point the finger at them while you brag about how many points you have earned to get into Heaven? Nope, you can’t. We are sinners through and through and we are only saved by grace through faith in Jesus.
You are not preaching the truth and I am not following your blog any longer. I do not align myself with people who preach false doctrine.
Grace and peace to you”
After that, she never messaged me back, I stopped following her blog, she stopped following my blog, and that is where the Lord left it. I am praying for her and I don’t have any ill will towards her. It is actually really sad. I pray she comes to a deeper knowledge of just how much Jesus Christ forgave and saved her the day He died on that cross for her and for all of us.
Grace and peace to you all! Our salvation is secure in Jesus!